Although it's not a G-body, I always get asked about 69 H/O stuff a lot it seems as well. So I'm including a few important tidbits here about the 69 Hurst/Olds that few people know about. Plus some stuff that might help in restoring a 69 H/O. I've got a lot more information about the '69s, but not enough room here. If you need more stuff, like stripe locations, etc., email me and let me know.

1969 Hurst/Olds VIN Numbers (553 out of 900+)

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1969 Hurst/Olds fun things to know

Did you know:

the original DuPont laquer code, according to a 6/69 bulletin, for the gold stripes was 5196LO? And it lists it as FIREFROST!

all the cars started life as a Cameo White 442 with NO emblems installed?

the entire Demmer conversion process consisted of adding mirrors, scoop (and hood hole), spoiler, paint stripes, air cleaner shroud, shifter, painting grill area and all H/O emblems?

if you have the original transmission installed, you can tell the number off the Oldsmobile assembly line by the tranny #? Subtract 1000 from the 4 digit number, and there you have it.

apparently, so far, transmission numbers reflect that at LEAST 922, maybe more, '69 H/O's were made. An old original was found in the weeds recently, with the tranny number OH-69-1922. This is one of the last 4 or 5 built to have records on it.

two styles of scoops were used, one with extra matting underneath (late, "X" shaped), and one without (early)?

"D" heads were on all 69 H/Os? Some claims have been made that "C" heads were used on some A/C cars, but so far, no hard evidence to support it. 1968 did use "C"s on the A/C cars, however.

the H/O did NOT come with hood pins as shown in many car mags of the era, but a lot of people installed them?

the air cleaner assembly top flapper and vacuum actuator was a FORD design?

the air cleaner inside lid had a standard "Oldsmobile Rocket 455" decal on it?

the air cleaner "Keep your car all GM" decal was exclusively coded "OW"? (I've seen "PP" at car shows. Nope. Wrong one.)

the air cleaner element is AC366C or equivalent?

all had an "IBM" card with them, some of the later ones even had typed instructions saying to ship to Demmer?

H/O grilles were the same as 442 grilles, except the inside of the headlight bezels were blacked out? (still left silver edge trim) However, some later ones were also completely flat black.

the factory promo photo showed the H/O decal on the hood scoop in different configuration compared to the production one?

the TH400 transmission code is "OH"?

the camshaft was a milder version than the 68 H/O, and was used in every car, regardless of options?

the glove box emblem (not talking about the plaque) was clear plastic, chrome mylar-backed decal?

that the dash plaque listed the car number as a Hurst Performance registration number, NOT the sequential number?

Not all H/Os came with the dash plaque? Original owner had to register with Hurst to get it.

the mirrors were non-remote, and were imported from England? (and no, they weren't Talbot mirrors)

the promotional cars did NOT have the PCV valve coming out of the intake?

some real early editions of the cars had WHITE pinstripe on the edges of the gold on the headrests? (later dropped)

Kurt Karch is the 69 H/O advisor for the Hurst/Olds Club of America, and he knows just about everything about the 69 H/Os (e-mail: kurt69hurst@worldnet.att.net)?

the Hurst dual-gate shifter is warranted forever against material defects, and Mr. Gasket will still honor that warranty?

the paint stripes were painted on the cars with all the chrome/stainless left in place? (Taped up, only way to do a PROPER resto)

the carb number was a common 7029251 on all 69 H/Os? (or 29251 as well.)

except for a few promotional cars, all the cars were built in a time frame spanning from the fourth week of March to the last week of May?

the rear end codes were SH (3.23), SJ(3.42), and SL (3.91)? 3.23 only available with air, 3.42 standard w/o air, 3.91 opt w/o air.

the factory colors were code 50- Cameo white (can still get under code 11 though, same color), with Hurst Gold Fire Frost stripes outlined with black pinstripe?

Demmer Corporation (who converted the cars) has a gallon of Hurst Gold Fire Frost laquer that DuPont reproduced in Base/Clear formula?

it normally took about 1 day to get the cars converted?

one man was responsible for pinstriping the black on all cars (same guy pinstriped all the 68's also)?

according to Demmer, the H/O emblems were plastic, instead of the advertised die-cast?

some of the very early H/O emblems were "metallized" by a process of adding a copper plate then chrome plate over the plastic? Later versions did not have the copper underplating.

the intake manifold number is 405233 (cast iron) which was predecessor to the 70 W-30 aluminum intake?

all interior codes were 930, which meant black vinyl with bucket seats?

all were built in Lansing?

the factory guage package was optional, not standard as many believe, but was included in a majority of cars?

the A/C optioned cars were more limited in production than the non-air cars?

the custom steering wheel (N-30 straight bar) was standard, and the 3-spoke wheel was OPTIONAL (N34)?

the factory W-46 option consisted of the 15x7 special wheels and F-60x15 Goodyear Polyglas GT tires, and although they wouldn't admit it and wasn't listed, the 455?

Because of the tires, the H/O had its own exclusive tire pressure decal on the driver's door.

the W-46 option was the factory "code" for the H/O, regardless of air or non-air configuration? (68 used 2 codes, W-45 and W-46)

roughly about two-thirds were equipped WITHOUT A/C?

the body plate on supposedly all showed a Cutlass body but had a 442 VIN?

all but the convertible VINs started as 344879Mxxxxxx? The convertibles were 344679Mxxxxxx. 3 convertibles were made, reports of maybe as many as 5!

the VINs on all the 69 H/Os were NOT sequential?

the area underneath the rear hood grilles was painted black?

power disc brakes (JL2) were mandatory with the W-46 option?

the H/O and W-32 shared the same distributor number? (1111989 and the extremely hard to find 1111973)

69 Hurst/Olds Gold Paint

The formula given is for one pint (DuPont says it’s enough to do one car’s stripes when thinned, but I’d personally go with a quart) of the more expensive ChromaPremier. I recommend test spraying the mix first to make sure that it’s what you want. Take this to your DuPont jobber. It MAY be under the name of "69 Hurst/Olds Gold". It wasn’t in the computer systems last I checked. If you need a quart, double the amounts shown.

Cost code from DuPont: (important) F

4530S Flop Control Agent 45.4

890J Transox Yellow 86.0

894J Extra Coarse Alum 109.3

845J Transp Yellow 131.0

895J Bright Coarse Alum 149.9

802J LS White 161.1

832J Green 162.0

1005S Gold Pearl 180.7

1008S Moss Green Pearl 181.0

62320F Binder 326.3

62330F Balancer 457.5

The Cameo White, on the other hand, is NOT listed as "Cameo White" any more. It is listed as a fleet color, and the ChromaPremier color is listed as 5033F, under the fleet color "Dover White", a Kunkel Services color. However, it IS the exact same color as "Cameo White", the old code 50 color. Or, you can use the 72 H/O color code 11 as well, since this too was "Cameo White". I believe they STILL might have this one listed.

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